Steve Goble

Choose life. (Deuteronomy 30:19)


Once again, read by my mum! (ῧ)

1 The desert and the parched land will be glad; the wilderness will rejoice and blossom.
Like the crocus, 2 it will burst into bloom; it will rejoice greatly and shout for joy.
The glory of Lebanon will be given to it, the splendour of Carmel and Sharon;
they will see the glory of the Lord, the splendour of our God.
3 Strengthen the feeble hands, steady the knees that give way;
4 say to those with fearful hearts, 'Be strong, do not fear;
your God will come, he will come with vengeance;
with divine retribution he will come to save you.'
5 Then will the eyes of the blind be opened and the ears of the deaf unstopped.

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It's important to point out that this is not a book arguing for creationism, as throughout this is presumed to already be the reader's existing stance. Rather, this book is arguing for creation to be recognised as the foundation of Christian evangelism.

And there it makes a robust case. It doesn't seem so much that the theory of evolution is a bad thing, more that its inconsistency with the book of Genesis cannot be ignored by Christian evolutionists for very long.

For example, without the context of mankind's fall from perfection in the garden of Eden, going on to offer forgiveness for our completely unforeshadowed shortcomings can easily seem irrelevant.

"In other words, one cannot really understand the good news in the New Testament of Jesus' death and resurrection, and thus payment for sin, until one understands the bad news in Genesis of the Fall of man, and thus the origin of sin and its penalty of death." [p. 24]

Throughout this book Ken catalogues in some detail the cracks that emerge in Christian theology, as tensions between modern evolutionary Christianity and the ancient book of Genesis are realised, uncertainty develops, and problems emerge.

There are a few points in here that I would question. One would be page 79's emphasis that Jesus endorsed creationism, which later appears trumped on page 108 by the argument that Paul would sometimes begin by looking at a group of people's existing beliefs. So surely Jesus could have been doing that too?

Another would be chapter nine's assertion that merely discussing surface morality issues won't attract new Christian believers, as I reckon that common ground between people is quite widely regarded to be a good starting point.

Most of all though I found myself disagreeing with the book regarding the sheer enormous numbers of Christians who believe in evolution (a popularity which I wish a few more non-Christians would acknowledge). For while this book agrees that the old Earth theory is now endorsed throughout the church, the assertion that this is a bad thing strikes me as a self-defeating argument. While evolution may prevent some from becoming new believers, and even cause a few Christians to presently give up on their faith, the enormous number who can and do reconcile, or at least live with, the disparity might just have discovered something there…

On the other hand, such a contradiction is hardly exclusive to just the Christian evolutionists. There also seem to be enough atheist evolutionists out there who manage to balance the tension between the impossibility of intelligent design vs. using intelligent design themselves, eg. when they write their own book.

As I say though, I can't really challenge an argument built upon another guy's beliefs. The author of this book is convinced of the inerrancy of the Bible, and is a creationist, and it's that foundation upon which the reasoning of this book is constructed. I might as well try to tell an Aussie how to be Australian. I'm in favour of Australia, but I don't know what it's like to have grown up looking at the rest of the world from that perspective.

I do still have the creationist book Refuting Evolution 2 by Dr Jonathan Sarfati, Ph.D on my list of books to read, so I may have a bit more to type in response to that. After all, I do think that evolution is a more delicate theory than creation, (eg. it requires millions of years of further unknown events to not trump the tiny amount that we can observe in the present) hence my sympathies lying more with the young Earth theory. I just find thousands of years less of an ask than millions.

Perhaps this book should drop that question mark from its title though, and instead just call itself 'Why They Won't Listen'.

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And today's celebrity Bible-reader is... my mum! :)

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I have no particular opinion on this book, because it does exactly what it says on the title.

33 short extracts from the Biblical book of Psalms are presented in this pocket-sized hardback booklet, grouped into the headings Introduction, Praise, Petition, Peace, Purity and Provision. (they really should have called that intro Preface)

It occurred to me that there were about the right number of them to read one a day over a month, so I've been using this as my daily-ish Bible reading guide for about the past 40 days. In practice, I have to admit though that I've usually just read each excerpt, and then promptly forgotten all about it. I've tried to address this by reading each passage twice, slowly, and then rerereading it again the following day, but they just haven't consciously sunk in. Still, it does mean that I've got through the book three times! Perhaps I needed to give it more daily time, and/or have some questions to guide me…

The one quotation that did sink in though was also the shortest one: page 31's famous Be still, and know that I am God. I need to be told that one a bit more often in my life.

There are umpteen different translations used for this compilation, which is an attitude that works for me here.

Does this make me a psalmreader?


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I have never understood where the belief that the Bible was written by God, or even inspired by him, came from.

The reasons that I do have for holding that belief have always struck me as weak. At the end of the day, I hold that belief because so many others tell me to. If you have a better reason, then I'd sincerely love to consider it.

I am more confident of the Bible's being a collection of writings about God, mainly by authors who believed in his existence, which I concede would make it inspired by him, even if he doesn't exist. Good for them. When I write, I often try to convey my beliefs about God too.

It can be argued that it also reflects stages on mankind's journey of discovering God, which makes it a logical reference work for those considering God today. After all, when someone who believes in God opens a Bible, they're usually in more of a mind to listen to God than at other times.

Putting a truth into words always simplifies it though. For example, you don't always write down an object's colour. Even if you do go to record that a thing is red, you probably won't write down its exact colour, which might be alizarin crimson. Chances are though, that its exact exact colour hasn't even been classified yet, let alone been attributed a name. 'Red' will have to do, despite its vagueness.

Believing in what is written in the Bible, or in any book, must surely result in believing in a simplified version of the truth that is being conveyed, if any.

So doesn't believing the Bible run the risk of keeping us at a distance from understanding something more complex? Or should it rather serve as a stepping-stone towards understanding something more complex?

After all, nothing can be more complex than God.

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I find everything complicated, because I am quite simple.

A complicated thing will not squeeze into my simple brain, so I simplify it to fit.

Now when I consider a thing, I consider my simple version of that thing instead - it's easier.

That book that I just finished reading? I don't need to read it again. I've got it all up here. Well, the main points.

The United States Of America? I've never really been there, but it's just England with different labels, maps and accents isn't it.

History too.

The universe? Yep, even that. Got a tiny model of it up here. It all works. Sorted.

Even God. I actually think that he corresponds to the tiny simple version of him in my brain too. Sorry - He / Him.

This all leads me to draw simple conclusions about many, if not all, of the original complicated things.

God loves. Therefore we are all loved by God.

However my version of a thing will not be the same as anyone else's, because we will have made different choices in how to simplify it.

God is just. Therefore we all receive justice from God.

Well, they can't both be true. Can they?

We will also each form and frame our understandings from our individual experiences too. Hence, I perceive God as a man. Of course I do. I am a man. I can't even get my head around what God might be like as a penguin.

Of course beginning with our differing notes can also lead our calculations in different directions too. I had a terrible argument this morning with my penguin.

But the great thing about objective truths is that we can both keep on clarifying our conflicting versions by learning more and more detail from the same original source. One day we might even agree, at least on some things. That'll probably require us to listen to each other though. A lot. I might find that I need to consider things like love and justice together, rather than as exclusive alternatives.

As a human being, the very brief simple accounts that I have of Jesus seem closer to what I think really ought to be true about God, than any other version that I retain a copy of.

That might sound like a simple outlook. It is. It's an outlook.

Well, that's my understanding.

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Will your long-winded speeches never end?
- Job 16:3a
English Bible translations are a bit like online dating profiles: If they're beautiful, then they're probably not faithful. If they are faithful, then they're probably not beautiful. If they are both faithful and beautiful, then you're still reading their introduction.

(wah-wahhh)

If I've said it once on this blog, then I've probably said it five times: All contemporary English translations of the Bible begin with a preface crowing about how their's is the first and only one to win on both scores.

Unless it's the God's Word version.

GOD'S WORD, produced at the end of this century by God's Word to the Nations Bible Society, fills a need that has remained unmet by English Bibles: to communicate clearly to contemporary Americans without compromising the Bible's message. This new translation consciously combines scholarly fidelity with natural English. [page v]

Oh. I was wrong. It is exactly the same as all the others. Sorry everyone.

Traditionally, the Scriptures have been translated into English by teams of Bible scholars serving part-time. This translation employed full-time Bible scholars and full-time English editorial reviewers. GOD'S WORD is the first English Bible in which English reviewers have been actively involved with scholars at every stage. [page v]

Hrrrm. Aside from the inaccurate implication that full-time scholars are somehow better than part-time ones (eg. mothers), the English reviewers that they have employed can't even get the tone of the introduction right.

If any of the preface's aloof self-championing is intended to either demonstrate humility, or score respect, it's going to be an uphill battle to succeed. Further down the first page, the efforts of other translators get called "awkward", "misleading", "incomprehensible" and even "amusing".

Well then, let's hope that this translation doesn't go and contain any verses that sound awkward.

"Please don’t do two things to me
so that I won’t have to hide from you:
Stop oppressing me.
Don’t let your terror frighten me.


- Job 13:20-21

He will eat cheese and honey until he knows how to reject evil and choose good. Indeed, before the boy knows how to reject evil and choose good, the land of the two kings who terrify you will be deserted.

- Isaiah 7:15-16

Or misleading.

Never worship in the way that it's being done here today, where everyone does whatever he considers right.

- Deuteronomy 12:8

When you sit down to eat with a ruler,
pay close attention to what is in front of you,
and put a knife to your throat if you have a big appetite.


- Proverbs 23:1-2

Then the LORD told me, "Love your wife again, even though she is loved by others and has committed adultery. Love her as I, the LORD, love the Israelites, even though they have turned to other gods and love to eat raisin cakes."

- Hosea 3:1

Or just plain incomprehensible.

The man measured the distance from the inside of the lower gateway to the outside of the inner courtyard. It was 175 feet from east to north.

- Ezekiel 40:19

Do not answer a fool with his own stupidity,
or you will be like him.
Answer a fool with his own stupidity,
or he will think he is wise.


- Proverbs 26:4-5

Because Damascus has committed three crimes, and now a fourth crime,
I will not change my plans.
The Arameans have crushed the people of Gilead
with iron-spiked threshing sledges.


- Amos 1:3b

You have dug out two ears for me.[a]

a. Hebrew meaning of this line uncertain.


- Psalm 40:6b

And as for amusing...!

He delivered this message: "Oh no! Who will live when God decides to do this?

- Numbers 24:23

But if the priest examines the scabby disease and it does not look deeper than the rest of the skin and there is no black hair in it, the priest must put the person with the scabby disease in isolation for seven days.

- Leviticus 13:31

King Nahash of Ammon was severely oppressing the tribes of Gad and Reuben. He would poke out everyone’s right eye and allow no one to rescue Israel. There was no one among the Israelites east of the Jordan River whose right eye King Nahash of Ammon had not poked out.

- 1 Samuel 11:1a

How long will you lie there, you lazy bum?

- Proverbs 6:9a

The High and Lofty One lives forever

- Isaiah 57:15a (God's Word)

Well, amusement is relative. I have more positive stuff to say later I promise.

Features of GOD'S WORD

Layout


The features that distinguish GOD'S WORD from other Bible translations are designed to aid readers. The most obvious of these is the open, single-column format. This invites readers into the page. The single column takes the Bible out of the reference book category and presents it as the literary work that God intended it to be."
[page vi] (apart from all the section titles)

Now, call me an exception, but it seems to me that packing all that tiny print into those enormous blocks, rather than 'inviting me into the page', is going to have just the opposite effect. Even finding the next line down on the left margin is tricky when your eyes, and perhaps fingers, have to return so far back from the right one. For the entire Bible. Still, it does disprove open theism. For if God had foreseen this printing, then he would never have discouraged his people's request for a ruler.

While avoiding very long, complicated sentences, which characterize many English Bible translations, GOD'S WORD strives to vary the word arrangement in a natural way. [page vi]

Uh-huh.

Huldah added, “But tell Judah’s king who sent you to me to ask the LORD a question, ‘This is what the LORD God of Israel says about the words you heard: You had a change of heart and humbled yourself in front of the LORD when you heard my words against this place and those who live here.

2 Kings 22: 18-19b

Those 58 words form just one sentence.

And yet, there are a lot of sentences in this tome.

Whoever kills a bull is like someone who kills a person.
Whoever sacrifices a lamb is like someone who breaks a dog’s neck.
Whoever offers a grain sacrifice
is like someone who offers pig’s blood.
Whoever burns incense is like someone who worships an idol.
People have certainly chosen their own ways,
and their souls delight in detestable things.

- Isaiah 66:3


Those five sentences form just one single verse. Perhaps this verbosity better reflects the original prose, but the rule of thumb in here seems to be to never say anything once, when you have the option of instead repeating it multiple times:

The wicked are dead.
They are no longer alive.


- Isaiah 26:14a

Then the Spirit lifted me and took me to the east gate of the LORD’s temple. (It’s the gate that faces east.)

- Ezekiel 11:1a

David quietly got up and cut off the border of Saul’s robe. But afterward, David’s conscience bothered him because he had cut off the border of Saul’s robe. He said to his men, “It would be unthinkable for me to raise my hand against His Majesty, the LORD’s anointed king, since he is the LORD’s anointed.”

- 1 Samuel 24:4b-6

I will take my sword out of its scabbard and kill the righteous people and the wicked people among you. I’m going to kill the righteous people and the wicked people among you. That is why my sword will come out of its scabbard to be used against everyone from the south to the north.

- Ezekiel 21:3b-4

Ahaziah also followed the ways of Ahab’s family, because his mother gave him advice that led him to sin. He did what the LORD considered evil, as Ahab’s family had done. After his father died, they advised him to do what Ahab’s family had done.

- 2 Chronicles 22:3-4a

You also saw the feet and toes. They were partly potters’ clay and partly iron. This means that there will be a divided kingdom which has some of the firmness of iron. As you saw, iron was mixed with clay. The toes were partly iron and partly clay. Part of the kingdom will be strong, and part will be brittle. As you saw, iron was mixed with clay. So the two parts of the kingdom will mix by intermarrying, but they will not hold together any more than iron can mix with clay.

- Daniel 2:41-43

Maybe I should have cited fewer examples than that, but that's kind of my point.

But the God's Word version doesn't just have a low opinion of all the other English translations - it also reckons that you might be a bit simple-minded too. The choice to use gender-neutral language where they interpret scripture as intending it, is a valid belief, but just listen to their decision process:

For example, traditionally, Psalm 1:1 has been translated, "Blessed is the man who does not follow the advice of the wicked…" As a result, many readers will understand this verse to mean that only adult males, not women or children, can receive a blessing. [page vi]

I mean just who do they reckon is going to be dimwitted enough to think that? Apparently, "many readers". Or perhaps by taking that literally I'm proving their point…

My opinion here is that the editorial reviewers just don't seem all that great at editorial reviewing. I don't mind that at all, in fact I like this translation, I'm just really put off by the preface's judgement of others' work as inferior by comparison.

I have no observation on the work of the full-time scholars, none of whom are credited in this 1995 paperback edition.

Anyway the good news is that, if you can tear out the preface, keep taking a lot of deep breaths, and find a large print edition with narrower pages, (or just paste it all into a more reader-friendly layout and font from biblegateway.com) then you might just come to the same conclusion that I have about this Bible version - that it's one of my favourites.

Allowing for its extreme wordiness (I think this is the longest English Bible), the style of prose is very easy to read. When I got to read the whole of the book of Ruth at a church series a few years back, I first test-read it in a good dozen translations, until this one very narrowly beat The Message.

They also used to offer most of it for download as pdfs from their website (although various occasional verses somehow got missed out). This trumpeted the publishers' very proper interest in getting it out to as many people as possible, rather than just using it to make a profit. Then however they took it down, which since I had just started on their versions of the apocrypha, disappointingly compelled me to stop reading. That's not really on the agenda of any Bible translation is it?

The other thing about the pdfs was that they came with notes in the margin. These regularly explained the obvious and not-so-obvious, offered bizarre trivia, and even gave away spoilers, which at the very least made reading the whole thing a lot more fun…

Does God have
wings?
(Psalm 61:4)
Talking about
God’s wings is a
metaphorical way
of referring to his
care and protection.
Just as a
mother hen
gathers her chicks
under her wings,
so God protects
his people.


How big was a
lyre?
(Psalm 108:2)
This portable
stringed instrument,
often made
of cypress wood,
may have originated
in Syria. It
may have had 8 or
10 strings.


(yes but how BIG A LYRE was it?)

When was Solomon’s
temple
destroyed?
(2 Chronicles 7:20)
The Babylonians
destroyed the
lavish temple in
586 B.C.—over
400 years after it
was built.


GAGH! DON'T tell me THAT!!! It's not even BUILT YET!!!!!

When was the
book of Isaiah
written?

Isaiah may have
written this book
over the course of
his life. He lived
from 771 B.C. until
681 B.C.


Whew!

A child will be born for us.
A son will be given to us.
The government will rest on his shoulders.
He will be named:
Wonderful Counselor,
Mighty God,
Everlasting Father,
Prince of Peace.


- Isaiah 9:6

What are some
of the names
this chapter
uses to describe
God’s Son?
(Isaiah 9:6)
Some of the
names are
Wonderful
Counselor, Mighty
God, Everlasting
Father, Prince of
Peace.


Today (end of Micah)
During your prayer
time, write down
the names of
friends who need
to change their
sinful lives. Carry
that paper with
you and pray for
them throughout
the day.


I think the thing that I will always be grateful to the God's Word for though, will be its translation of a single word - repent. Realising that such an old-fashioned word had no modern English synonym, they composed a dictionary definition instead: "Change the way you think and act." I really never had a clear concept of what repentance was until I first heard those words, and obviously, this fat translation of the Bible is littered with them.

“Tell them, ‘As I live, declares the Almighty LORD, I don’t want wicked people to die. Rather, I want them to turn from their ways and live. Change the way you think and act! Turn from your wicked ways! Do you want to die, people of Israel?’

- Ezekiel 33:11

Anyway, as I've been through the whole thing, I've compiled a bit of scrapbook of quotes which, for one reason or another, have struck me as worth saving. Here are 14 of them, all of which speak to me.

If your spiritual nature is your guide, you are not subject to Moses’ laws.

- Galatians 5:18

Then I will smash them like bottles against each other. I will smash parents and children together, declares the LORD. I will have no pity, mercy, or compassion when I destroy them.’ ”

- Jeremiah 13:14

Many sleeping in the ground will wake up. Some will wake up to live forever, but others will wake up to be ashamed and disgraced forever. Those who are wise will shine like the brightness on the horizon. Those who lead many people to righteousness will shine like the stars forever and ever.

- Daniel 12:2-3

Then I sent someone to tell him, “None of your accusations are true. You are making them up out of your own imagination.”

- Nehemiah 6:8

What strength do I have left that I can go on hoping?
What goal do I have that I would want to prolong my life?


- Job 6:11

A righteous person cares even about the life of his animals,
but the compassion of wicked people is nothing but cruelty.


- Proverbs 12:10

A heart that turns from God becomes bored with its own ways,
but a good person is satisfied with God’s ways.


- Proverbs 14:14

Every day is a terrible day for a miserable person,
but a cheerful heart has a continual feast.


- Proverbs 15:15

Today
Who do you have
a difficult time
being kind to? Ask
God to help you
be kind to that
person during the
next week.


- Proverbs 18 sidebar

Just as you don’t know how the breath of life enters the limbs of a child within its mother’s womb, you also don’t understand how God, who made everything, works.
Plant your seed in the morning, and don’t let your hands rest until evening. You don’t know whether this field or that field will be profitable or whether both of them will turn out equally well.


- Ecclesiastes 11:5-6

The LORD created the heavens.
God formed the earth and made it.
He set it up.
He did not create it to be empty
but formed it to be inhabited.
This what the LORD says:
I am the LORD, and there is no other.


- Isaiah 45:18

You covered yourself with a cloud
so that no prayer could get through it.
You made us the scum and trash of the nations.


- Lamentations 3:44-45

I went to the potter’s house, and he was working there at his wheel. Whenever a clay pot he was working on was ruined, he would rework it into a new clay pot the way he wanted to make it.
The LORD spoke his word to me. The LORD asked, “Nation of Israel, can’t I do with you as this potter does with clay? Nation of Israel, you are like the clay in the potter’s hands.
“At one time I may threaten to tear up, break down, and destroy a nation or a kingdom. But suppose the nation that I threatened turns away from doing wrong. Then I will change my plans about the disaster I planned to do to it.
“At another time I may promise to build and plant a nation or a kingdom. But suppose that nation does what I consider evil and doesn’t obey me. Then I will change my plans about the good that I promised to do to it.
“Now say to the people of Judah and to those who live in Jerusalem, ‘This is what the LORD says: I’m going to prepare a disaster and make plans against you. Turn from your evil ways, change your lives, and do good.’


- Jeremiah 18:3-11

A scroll was found in the palace of Ecbatana, which is in the province of Media. This was written on it:

MEMORANDUM

Date: Cyrus’ first year as king
From: King Cyrus
Subject: God’s temple in Jerusalem.

The temple should be rebuilt as a place to offer sacrifices. Its foundation should be laid. It should be 90 feet high and 90 feet wide with three rows of large stones and a row of wood. The king’s palace will pay for it.


- Ezra 6:2-4

Now that's what I call a modern English translation! :)

(with thanks to Shane)
Other Bible translation reviews:

Contemporary English Version (CEV)
Good News, AKA Today's English Version (TEV)
The Message
New International Version (NIV)

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It takes a lot to get me to read a book. Usually it's by recommendation.

In the case of Love Wins, it's more because of unrecommendation.

Upon its publication last year, it quickly became so divisive within the English-speaking Christian church that I felt it necessary to hold an opinion on it. Apparently author Rob Bell had typed some theologically unpopular thoughts regarding the nature of salvation. Well, so have I.

It's also because - again last year - I found myself flicking through a copy at work during a discussion about its impending availability locally. It immediately struck me as looking like a really quick read. Slow reader that I am, I don't think that about many books.

So now that I've got my own edition and read it cover to cover, in fact its chapters have struck me as overlength. Bell's style of using very short lines and para… what? Oh, right, what I think of the opinions he expresses.

Well, I'm actually not that clear on what the opinions that he's expressing are. I guess I probably should have read the book a lot more quickly than I did, to avoid forgetting about it between chapters. Despite making notes, I'm afraid that most of it has just not remained with me.

I think I need to to refresh my memory here. Perhaps I should trawl back through some of my sprawling and long-winded digital jottings. Mind you, be warned: When I agree with an argument, in case I'm wrong, I'll do my darndest to disagree with it...

If the message of Jesus is that God is offering the free gift of eternal life through him - a gift we cannot earn by our own efforts, works, or good deeds - and all we have to do is accept and confess and believe, aren't those verbs?

And aren't verbs actions?
[p.11]

I disagree. Accepting, confessing and believing are verbs, but they are not usually actions. No two words mean exactly the same thing. That's why the book doesn't simply ask 'Aren't accepting, confessing and believing actions?'

[on heaven]
"Second, one of the most striking aspects of the pictures the prophets used to describe this reality is how earthy it is. Wine and crops and grain and people and feasts and buildings and homes. It's here they were talking about, this world, the one we know - but rescued, transformed, and renewed." [p.34]

The prophets would have to describe heaven through their own experiences, hence they had no choice but to describe heaven in earthy terms. How could they possibly get any other terms in which to describe it? They couldn't have had the words, and if they did, then we, being unfamiliar with those concepts, could not have understood them. So of course they described heaven in earthy terms.

"To name is to order, to participate, to partner with God in taking the world somewhere." [p.35]

Great!

"When we hear people saying they can't believe in a God who gets angry - yes, they can. How should God react to a child being forced into prostitution? How should God feel about a country starving while warlords hoard the food supply? What kind of God wouldn't get angry at a financial scheme that robs thousands of people of their life savings?" [p.38]

Again, WE have emotions such as anger, so we are inherently compelled to perceive God in terms that we can comprehend.

"Rewards are a dynamic rather than a static reality. Many people think of heaven, and they picture mansions (a word nowhere in the Bible's descriptions of heaven)…" [p.43]

Unless you count: "In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you."

- Jesus' words in John 14:2 (King James Version)

D'oh! :)

"But heaven also confronts. Heaven, we learn, has teeth, flames, edges, and sharp points. What Jesus is insisting with the rich man is that certain things simply will not survive in the age to come. Like coveting. And greed. The one thing people won't be wanting in the perfect peace and presence of God is someone else's life. The man is clearly attached to his wealth and possessions, so much so that when Jesus invites him to leave them behind, he can't do it." [p.49]

Brilliant!

"… think about the magazines that line the checkout aisles at most grocery stores. The faces on the covers are often of beautiful, rich, famous, talented people embroiled in endless variations of scandal and controversy.

… are we seeing the first who will be last that Jesus spoke of?

When it comes to people, then - the who of heaven - what Jesus does again and again is warn us against rash judgments about who's in and who's out."
[p.54]

Uh, isn't that what you just did? :) Or did I miss the subtlety there?

Sad to say it, but pages 54-58 - obviously too long to quote here - strike me as a poor attempt to reconcile scripture to theory. The summary on pages 58-9 is clear, but requires Jesus to have meant any of three different things whenever he used the word 'heaven'. Also, the author seems unaware that definitions for words from 2,000 years ago are only the definitions that we today infer that those words had back then. Quite apart from which, observing how hard he seems to be working here to get scripture to fit his theories, he probably didn't intend to suggest that God was such a poor communicator.

Anyway, having taken apart the use of the English word 'heaven' in translations, Rob inevitably moves onto that other place.

"To answer that question, I want to show you every single verse in the Bible in which we find the actual word 'hell.'" [p.64]

Now obviously, he does not actually mean the actual word 'hell', because that is a word in English. He must mean any word in the Bible's original lexicons that has been translated into English as the word 'hell'. He just about makes 34 references, even fewer of which he concedes mean what is traditionally thought of as 'hell', and even fewer of which he quotes.

"And that's it.
Anything you have ever heard people say about the actual word 'hell' in the Bible they got from those verses you just read."
[p.69]

I have two big pushbacks here:

a. I have not just read them, because Rob hasn't quoted them all.

b. Most of Rob's hypothetical 'people' won't have read the same English translation as he, and as a result may be privy to a whole pile of additional uses of the word in the Bible.

To check this out, I've run a quick whole keyword search on the number of instances of the word 'hell' occurring in each of the full English Bible translations available on biblegateway.com. In Rob's favour, I'm surprised to find that most do produce quite a low number of matches. But not all.

Remember now - Love Wins found about 34, give or take: (cue Alan "Fluff" Freeman music)

21st Century King James Version: 54
American Standard Version: 13
Amplified Bible: 13
Common English Bible: 19
Complete Jewish Bible (I guess the one Jesus would have used): 0
Contemporary English Version: 20
Darby Translation: 12
Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition: 108
Easy-To-Read Version: 16
English Standard Version: 14
English Standard Version Anglicised: 14
God's Word Translation: 35
Good News Translation: 21
King James Version: 54
New King James Version: 32
The Message Bible: 57 (r3sp3ct dude)
New American Standard Bible: 13
New Century Version: 17
New International Version: 13
New International Version 1984: 14
New International Reader's Version: 22
New International Version - UK: 13
Today's New International Version: 13
New Life Version: 35
New Living Translation: 17
Wycliffe Bible: 88
Young's Literal Translation: 0

So out of those 27 translations (admittedly some of them very similar, such as all the NIVs), five contained a significantly higher number of instances of the word 'hell'. What's that? You don't count da funky Message Bible? Okay then - four. Clearly, still too many for the assertion that "Anything you have ever heard people say about the actual word 'hell' in the Bible they got from those [34-ish] verses you just read."

Still, as you can also see, his argument comes out of this battle strong, if not successful. Most of the translations above come out with even fewer references than Rob's!

Nonetheless, the argument on page 68 that the word Gehenna means the city dump is a double-edged sword. The reasoning goes that Jesus was using it as a metaphor for the terrible earthly consequences of our actions. Yet if Jesus were looking for an understandable way to convey the actual fire of literal eternal torment in hell, then equally Gehenna would be the perfect metaphor for that too. Ultimately, there is no argument to be made either way by explaining this word.

Despite this, I found Rob to really be getting into his stride in this chapter. He gives a great illumination of the rich man and Lazarus story, including the folly of exaggerating a hierarchy. His view of man's freedom - including freedom to hurt - being an enormous gift of grace from God is inspiring.

"Failure, we see again and again, isn't final,
judgment has a point,
and consequences are for correction."
[p.88]

YES!

He goes on to realise Satan more in his accuser persona, and then to disassemble the idea of 'eternal punishment'. Universalism, I think he argues, is not an interpretation of the Bible, but rather one of its foundations.

"It's not 'Does God get what God wants?'
but
'Do we get what we want?'

And the answer to that is a resounding, affirming, sure, and positive yes.
Yes, we get what we want.

God is that loving.

If we want isolation, despair, and the right to be our own god, God graciously grants us that option."
[p.116-7]

In chapter five Dying To Live the book moves onto emphasising how much Jesus' death on the cross accomplished. However here again I found the argument sprawling, with repeated asking of the same growing set of questions Twelve Days Of Christmas-style, rather than just presenting them once.

"Think of what you've had to eat today.

Dead. All of it. If you ate plants, they were at some point harvested, uprooted, disconnected from a stalk or vine, yanked from the ground so that they could make their way to your plate, where you ate them so that you can… live. The death of one living thing for another.

… [so] when the writers of the Bible talk about Jesus's resurrection bringing new life to the world, they aren't talking about a new concept. They're talking about something that has always been true. It's how the world works."
[p.130-1]

Except that the vegetables I ate today are still dead. And I sincerely hope are going to remain so. Granted, all metaphors break down sooner or later, but not usually this quickly.

"How many people, if you were to ask them why they've left church, would give an answer something along the lines of, 'It's just so… small'?" [p.135]

In my opinion, a minority.

In chapter six the author gently crushes his own argument for Jesus' divinity at its launch, but then proceeds to go on and impart it anyway. Hey, there's a lot to be said for positive-mindedness.

"If you find yourself checking out at this point, finding it hard to swallow the Jesus-as-divine part, remember that these are ultimately issues that ask what kind of universe we believe we're living in. Is it closed or open? Is it limited to what we can conceive of and understand, or are there realities beyond the human mind?" [p.147]

After this, you just know that he's going to plunge on and explain the limited understanding of the whole undiscovered universe that he believes in his own human mind… ouch...

"Or are they referring to the very life source of the universe who has walked among us and continues to sustain everything with his love and power and grace and energy?" [p.156]

Yes, I really hope so too, but I cannot know for definite either.

After embracing the idea of the kingdom of heaven as working its way through the universe like yeast through dough, presently we get to a terrific examination of the prodigal son story. Like the parable of the rich man and Lazarus earlier, I found tons of great illuminations in here.

Yet still, there is this ongoing swinging between beautiful realisations of truth, and, well, things you can't edit once the book has been printed.

"God has no desire to inflict pain or agony on anyone." [p.177]

Except in the Bible! :)

"When the gospel is understood primarily in terms of entrance rather than joyous participation, it can actually serve to cut people off from the explosive, liberating experience of the God who is an endless giving circle of joy and creativity.

Life has never been about just 'getting in.' It's about thriving in God's good world."
[p.179]

Awesomely inspiring.

"God is not a slave driver." [p.181]

Tell that to poor Ezekiel! :)

"When you've experienced the resurrected Jesus, the mystery hidden in the fabric of creation, you can't help but talk about him." [p.181]

Again, I beg to differ.

"Many have heard the gospel framed in terms of rescue. God has to punish sinners, because God is holy, but Jesus has paid the price for our sin, and so we can have eternal life. However true or untrue that is technically or theologically, what it can do is subtly teach people that Jesus rescues us from God.

Let's be very clear, then: we do not need to be rescued from God. God is the one who rescues us from death, sin, and destruction. God is the rescuer."
[p.182]

I so agree.

"This is crucial for our peace, because we shape our God, and then our God shapes us." [p.182]

If one is sincerely seeking truth, then I don't agree that this is always true. I cite Paul of Tarsus, who was shaped by a different God to the one he had himself shaped.

"In Romans 5 we're told, 'At just the right time, when we were still powerless, Christ died for the ungodly.'" [p.189]

By this point I was lost as to why Christ had died.

"What Jesus does is declare that he,
and he alone,
is saving everybody."
[p.155]

I love that idea.

So, in conclusion, just what is the case that Rob Bell is making here?

I think it was:

Maybe God is so great that everyone goes to heaven.
Maybe heaven is here, and is at least partly up to us to restore it.
Maybe there is no hell, in the traditional sense, but we can corrupt this world into a similarly terrible place if we collectively choose to.
Maybe the verses that he quotes actually are the only ones on that subject in the Bible.
Maybe there is no heaven, in the traditional sense, at all.
Maybe there is no afterlife.

The whole thing carries a momentum that suggests he's both building to a point and rerealising Christianity, but neither of these journeys seem to me to come to fruition.

I'm also reminded of a feeling I once had while watching a video of a Christian man enthusing beliefs about God that he seemed to hope were true so strongly that they had become an assumption. A moment after recognising this feeling, I realised that that guy had been Rob Bell too.

I think I love Rob's vision. It makes a lot of sense to me, and sounds awesome. As I've read this book, I've found great teaching in the parables that he's examined, and a renewed understanding of Jesus divinity. And yes, I feel inspired to take more responsibility over this world and its occupants.

I think I just have two problems though:

1. The absence of life after death. I spent the entire book waiting for him to get onto covering this. If God is that loving, then he can't let babies die.

2. The book-long attempt at making the argument Bible-based.

I can't help thinking that the vision described in Love Wins would function a lot more clearly if it didn't keep trying to reconcile 66 other books on the same subject into agreeing with it. It would probably be easier to mount this argument without the Bible.

But maybe this book is one stage on the journey towards discovering that agreement.

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"Greet Rufus, that outstanding Christian"

- Romans 16:13a (God's Word)

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Reprinting of the always funky Message Bible, but jazzed up even more with a stone-effect cover, chapter numbers in fashion-ready three-digits, and more forward-slashes than The Passion Of The Christ.

I'm sorry, I can't do it, I still can't take this seriously.

Well now that's just not fair. As I may have implied in my earlier review of this paraphranslation, at its worst, the Message is only funny for the wrong reasons. At its best, I think it's the most accessible version out there.

What this printing really has to its credit though are translator Eugene H Peterson's opening commentaries on most of the books. (he combines a few of them)

Here again, my opinions falls into two camps. This review contains six quotes - three critical, three positive.

"But more often than not we become impatiently self-important along the way and decide to improve matters with our two cents' worth. We add on, we supplement, we embellish. But instead of improving on the purity and simplicity of Jesus, we dilute the purity, clutter the simplicity." [p.1763 regarding Hebrews]

Hang on, doesn't that call into question the very existence of these introductions? Well, his opinions can be quite subjective on occasions.

"But this letter, to one member of the Colossian church, he wrote with his own hand." [p.1760 regarding Philemon - I personally think it was just the one verse that Paul wrote himself.]

On others, as so many historians do, he falls victim to believing that history matches his own perception of it.

"It is impossible to overstate either the intensity or the complexity of the suffering that came to a head in the devastation of Jerusalem and then continued on into the seventy years of exile in Babylon." [p.1194 regarding Lamentations]

Surely Peterson's understanding of these millennia-old matters must come from written statements that are similarly lacking?

However this is just the sort of individual voice missing from the introductions in so many other sandpapered presentations of the Bible. If you want to disagree with Peterson, then all you really have to do is read the actual book that he's talking about - it's right there!

This can be a bit hit and miss. In some cases he seems to be casting around to find an angle. In others, such as some of the wisdom books, he appears to already have a stance, and the result can be wonderfully illuminating.

"Ecclesiastes is a John-the-Baptist kind of book. It functions not as a meal but as a bath. It is not nourishment; it is cleansing. It is repentance. It is purging."

And when he has a particular axe to grind about life, well, just listen to him clearly articulate it.

"When Christian believers gather in churches, everything that can go wrong sooner or later does. Outsiders, on observing this, conclude that there is nothing to this religion business except, perhaps, business - and dishonest business at that. Insiders see it differently. Just as a hospital collects the sick under one roof and labels them as such, the church collects sinners. Many of the people outside the hospital are every bit as sick as the ones inside, but their illnesses are either undiagnosed or disguised. It's similar with sinners outside the church.

So Christian churches are not, as a rule, model communities of good behavior."
[p.1780 regarding James]

Awesome.

I didn't want to read the whole translation again, so I've read many of these intros before my reading of the corresponding book in a different version. I'm sure that's probably compromised some moments, but equally it does challenge his opinions to stick to the original text rather than to his own.

At the back is something that I've been looking for for a long time - a list of the books in chronological order, which I'm about to take on board in my reading of most of the epistles in the God's Word.

Finally, sorry to say it, but I find Peterson's own prose to be a bit easier to read than his translation work. Well I suppose that one or the other had to come out as preferable.

In this final quote, Peterson's second sentence roundly sabotages everything that follows it, but if you can hold that in tension, then it's still a sincerely great observation.

"But happiness is not a word we can understand by looking it up in the dictionary. In fact, none of the qualities of the Christian life can be learned out of a book. Something more like apprenticeship is required, being around someone who out of years of devoted discipline shows us, by his or her entire behavior, what it is. Moments of verbal instruction will certainly occur, but mostly an apprentice acquires skill by daily and intimate association with a "master," picking up subtle but absolutely essential things, such as timing and rhythm and "touch."" [p.1724 regarding Philippians]

I like Peterson's writing. The guy's love and perception of God's presence within everything are both affirming and inspiring.

Perhaps he should have called this book the Messages.

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"I'm a ghost of my former self"

- Psalm 102:4a (Message)

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"Your written testimonies are completely reliable."

- Psalm 93:5a (God's Word)

"The world was set in place; it cannot be moved."

- Psalm 93:1b (God's Word)


Surely begging the question, just how many written testimonies has God ever given us?

(ῧ)

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"Saul was dead, his three sons were dead, and the soldier who carried his weapons was dead. They and all his soldiers died on that same day." (Dave)

- 1 Samuel 31:6 (CEV)

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"No one compares to you"

- Psalm 40:5b (God's Word)

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"But rebels will be completely destroyed."

- Psalm 37:38a (God's Word)

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Avoid evil, do good, and live forever.

- Psalm 37:27 (God's Word)

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Treacherous dealers dealt treacherously, Yea, treachery, treacherous dealers dealt treacherously.

- Isaiah 24:16b (Young's Literal Translation)

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"But because of God's grace I am what I am."

- 1 Corinthians 15:10a (New International Reader's Version)

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We’re doomed!

- 1 Samuel 4:8a (NIV)

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